and if im replacing the chain and rear sprocket i should replace the counter shaft sprocketas well correct? alright sounds good. Tested: Barpad Toolkit by Rock Ready Engineering. Are you running aluminum sprockets? If you put a brand new sprocket on a worn out chain, the sprocket will wear faster, and vice versa. I agree with HansLanda..i run the standard 15 front tooth sprocket and have had a custom built 37 tooth sprocket for the rear.I hardly ever use it on the highway and mods are just 3x3,jd jet kit and k&n air filter.Engine not labouring as much due to the sprocket setup-still runs like a raped ape.I am anal when it comes to maintenance however and i lube and adjust the chain every month-and that is without taking it off-road.Quality 0-ring chain-Did and JT Sprockets as HansLanda says-is the way to go.Had mine on now for three years and the sprockets and chains look still good as new.Thats doing 1800km per month.The standard lengthchain should be fine as they are usually very long,just get a couple of extra masterlinks.Must admit though that doing the 3x3 mod,air filter and jet kit made quite a big difference on performance. alright i dont wanna sound like a super nube but ive never played with small 4 stroke carbs so im kinda on the nervous sideto f***with it. For those of you actively looking for 21-18 inch DRZ rims, these are pretty rare now in Singapore. once again with no luck. It makes sense in a way because the chain and sprockets wear down together. The Harley Pan-America should have been named Dirt Glide or not. ive been looking every where for this set up in a compleate set but all i can find is for other bikes not the drz and im not sure if the bolt pattern and spline shaft pattern are going to match the DRZ's. A huge difference when you are climbing rooty or rocky hills. Sounds like a dream for most, but for someone who is used to experiencing the pure thrill of riding a motorcycle offroad every single week, it was like going through the Basic Military Training confinement period all over again. Get the black one, it's faster. However, there are times in life when unforeseen circumstances will starve you of pleasures you take for granted. So what did I do about it? Pretty funky, I reckon. ive played a lot with 2 stroke carbs but have not played with 4 stroke carbs at all, are they relatively the same as far as jetting ? Going downhill is one of the scary parts of riding a motorcycle offroad. The chains come pre stretched so you shouldn't have to keep adjusting it. It felt very wrong when I was handling it. Ships is a P-Plate writer and a strong advocate for doing stupid things on offroad motorcycles. Unfortunately, I havent tried out proper obstacles like large logs or tractor tyres yet, simply because I dont have the balls to attempt them on the DRZ 400 SM! I think there are better lubes out there though. i replaced my counter shaft seal last year and everything looked good behind the sprocket and the counter shaft felt good. The anxiety of not knowing what could happen at the bottom if you dont stop in time can be pretty alarming, even for seasoned veterans. Going between trees in muddy terrain with constant weight shifting movements on what some call an elephant is no easy feat. If so, just go steel. Cams Just to put things into perspective for you, I would rate myself as an above-average novice level rider, or a below-average intermediate level rider. http://www.ebay.com/itm/321792363525, James Dean jet kit > DynoJet kit. Just keep it lubed and set the slack right the first time. I just replace a single part at a time. There was no choice left but to improvise and find new ways of having fun. Is this something you enjoy watching? thanks again for all your input. Yup Let that sink in. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. hi guys, i have some questions, ive been doing some research on this topic and there is a million and a half of these "what sprocket set i should use" topics,but none of them really answer the entire question, or that i have found anyways. and forks. I use Maxima chain wax. im gonna go with. Next thing I did was to remove all other bulky items such as my rally-styled headlight, rack, top-box, mirrors and pillion pegs. and if im replacing the chain and rear sprocket i should replace the counter shaft sprocketas well correct? Currently on 15/39. Im totally new to the off road thing. No. Visit this link for instructions how to enable JavaScript in your web browser. When my usual plaything, a 2018 Husqvarna TE250, was grounded in Malaysia (a story for another time), I had to forego my usual enduro weekends. Despite it being nonsense at single track riding, I believe it is still a great machine which you could take with you on the weekend trails. The DRZ 400 SM doesnt feel like it wants to be manoeuvred, but it does go where you want it to with a bit of strength and alot of emphasis on correct body positioning. That makes two of us. Its a different suspension (some say its even better than S), and a different gearing? what kind of lube do u guys use on yourchain? Pretty expensive. Despite the terrible front forks, the weight of the bike provides you with a haven of traction as you descend. Its older twins such as the E and S models have been proven as great dirt bikes that have set the standard for dualsport riding across the globe. Or so I thought, as I went ahead to enter the trails myself, ready to kick some mud butt, but to my utter dismay, I forgot to disconnect my side stand switch! It may not seem like a big difference but the inverted forks are a real PITA. All Rights Reserved. Which means it can take you to the market, bring you to the jungle for enduros, and take you on long distance border-crossing adventures. Does watching your mate make an unplanned 360 flip at the top of a hill sound familiar to you? Despite its limitations, it was still a great option to ride on your weekend trails due to its tame character and weight induced traction. Great read, thank you! ill look in to the did chain and sprockets. Well thats what this article is all about! Some features of this site require JavaScript. any words of encouragement and how much of a pain in the as* is it to tune it post new jets. Hill climbs are great! The last set that i put onwas not the most expensive but also not the cheapest set up and that only lasted about a season. the way cowpie mention to leave about 2-3 fingerslack in the middle of the swing arm. Crashing on downhills is one of those things that happen the more you dont want it to, and it can be very scary for those who have little experience attempting this. Offroading with a DRZ 400 SM yay or nay? I bought them off him for a steal and got them swapped out immediately at Holeshot Racing. i have also noticed a lot of metal shavings around the swing arm even if i lube the chain. Its too heavy, dont bother, Dualsport bikes are for newbs who dont know what they want, elephant bike, Its a still scrambler isnt it?, its the rider not the bike the plastics are still new yada-yada-yada, the list goes on. I started reading a whole lot more, exercised every day, began writing again after a year-long hiatus and even spent hours listening to Mark Knopflers tunes. I cannot quote take it everywhere that my KTM 300XC will go, but it is a highly capable tractor! Those front forks were not built for offroad terrain and they feel like they dont work at all sometimes. Weaving through the beautiful tropical jungle with prisms of light shining through leafy gaps, coupled with good combinations of well-timed clutch pops and twists of gas really does put a fat smile on anyones face! I single track my DR-Z 400 S. It has aftermarket cams, exhaust, some suspension work, Lectron carb, 33 mod and is a pretty squared away rig! Will work on a stock motor but accel at frwy speeds is less than I'd like (unless you weigh <140lbs). https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CXUM7YC. Would you care to explain even further? you shouldnt need to adjust the chain all the time even with a cheapo chain .. i run a non-oring standard chain and its got over 3k miles on it and ive only adjusted it once .. just be sure to use a good lube and DONT chase it with the adjuster - if you run the chain too tight on the drz it will just stretch it and stretch it every time you adjust it tighter .. 16/41 is as high as the drz can pull well unless all you are doing is long highway rides, acceleration is not good with 16/39 .. you could go 15/38 also which is about the same ratio as 16/41 i use a 16/41 and it will take slight mods to the chain case guard and front of the chain slider to fit a 16 .. a sunstar 32316 is the front i use, JT brand 41 (JTR808.41) is the rear i use, on the chain, buy it long and fit it and break it on the bike after you have everything mounted, thats the correct way to do it .. whichever link puts the adjustment closest to the middle of the range is the best place to break .. the chain adjustment should be alittle more than 3 fingers of slack in the middle top of the swingarm, double check by leaning over the bike from the right side and putting all your weight on it, reach down and be sure there is still alittle slack in the chain, it should 'not' be anywhere near tight with your weight on it .. JT Sprockets JTR808.39 39T Steel Rear Sprocket. And there it was in the carpark, a 2007 DRZ 400 SM which I use for my daily commute, totally inactive for the past month due to working from home. My friend swears by Motul, but I haven't used it. Neither are expensive on ebay. Im in the market for a DRZ400 for DS purpose. alright ill i think im going to find a DID. 16/39 is better suited for big bore / cam / carb modded engines. Athena 434, FCR39 slant, FMF Powercore 4 + Powerbomb, K&N/Twin Air, 3x3, SM & S wheels. Thanks for the all the advice. We use data about you for a number of purposes explained in the links below. with no luck. Its a great rig! It was a total C_ _ _ B_ _ moment (Fill in the blanks to win a prize, I may buy you a kopi). I have only tried the E model once but just from that, I could feel it was more punchy compared to the regular S/SM engines. Soon adding Hotcams. Delivery Riders Choice: 6 Motorcycles under 200cc, Noob Gets Data Scolding for Overspending on Motorcycle, Bike shop loans: What to know about cheap ride away deals, 5 killer motorcycling mistakes you hardly hear about. Meaning, I am probably able to get over some basic obstacles, but would need a marshall to help me at some point of time during a hard enduro race for the overly technical situations. or what brand ishould go with that well last more than one season. However, due to my bike being geared up to cruise on expressways, it does take quite a substantial amount of gas to get the right amount of torque for climbing steep hills. By continuing to browse our site you agree to our use of data and cookies. Why are you constantly replacing chain and sprockets? Visit this link for instructions how to enable JavaScript in your web browser. i dont know y its going tough sprockets, i have set the chain tension 2 different ways to see if it helped with getting slack over a few weeks. For the past couple of months, I have been trying out all sorts of ways to unwind. And although I didnt get these extra parts, I highly recommend that you folks get an upsized rear sprocket, as well as a non-restrictive end can for a little extra bite. When you buy through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. There are a few notable differences between the SM and the E. Rim size for starters lol Eddy5150, By Theres a huge market for DRZ parts and rims are aplenty on the web. After that was done, the cycle looked like this. Steel sprockets and chains last so long anyway I don't mind "spending more in the long run," if you know what I mean. I went back home again to bypass the side stand switch to make sure it wasnt going to hinder my evening adventures anymore, and true enough thats when the real riding started. i have a 2007 suzuki DRZ400SM and i have gone trough chains or sprockets about every year, and through out the shot 6 or so moths that i get to ride i am constantly setting the chain tension. Bummer. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The DRZ bites a hell lot more than you can imagine. the first way i did it is the recommended way. I started looking around for parts to convert my lightweight adventure bike set-up to a temporary enduro machine. For what its worth, I am pretty amazed by what this humble dualsport can do in an enduro setting! Run more chain slack and use steel sprockets. Im a bigger guy at 220 pounds/100kg. The weight of the bike helps it to feel really planted and stable while the tame throttle response makes things predictable, especially when roots or rocks are in the way. Industrial supply houses sell 520 chains in 50' & 100' lengths, expensive purchase but cheaper in the long run. 15/41 to 15/39 are the usual SM sprocket sets. I was ready! Other than that, when I put the 21/18 inch rims on my DRZ. April 4, 2017 in DRZ400/E/S/SM. As for brands, get a DID 520 x ring chain, and JT sprockets and forget about it. Everyones telling you not to touch your brakes but there you are stomping on that rear brake pedal for dear life. I might have more mods than you, but I run 16/39 on the street and it's alright. We use cookies to improve your experience on this website and so that ads you see online can be tailored to your online browsing interests. Conflicting thoughts started appearing in my head. I run JT or Sunstar sprockets and change sprockets and chain. Sorry to burst your bubble kids, but the DRZ 400 SM is definitely not the most formidable weapon for tight single track riding, simply due to its weight and harsh front forks. The bike was killing itself every single time my boots rubbed against the switch. The forks caught me by surprise a couple of times when I hit unseen ditches or roots, and nearly sent me whiskeying into trees. The local laws state that bikes manufactured before 2003 have to be scrapped by 2028, and they encourage owners to do so by offering monetary incentives. The DRZ 400 SM could be one of the few bikes close enough to be considered a unicorn (do-it-all) bike. im thinking about going with a 16/39 set up but i dont know what thats going to do to my low end, well i shouldn't say i dont know what its going to do to it i know its gonna bog it down alot, i just dont know how the bike is going to handle it and even if a stock engine with after market exhaust and 3x3 air mod dine incorrectly (i didnt do the 3x3 mod it was done when i purchased the bike)and if i should re jet the carb. alright ill i think im going to find a DIDchain, and JT 38rear sprocket. The first and most obvious parts I had to look for were offroad 21-18 inch rims, and lucky enough for me, a friend of mine had a set of old rims from his DRZ S model, with 2014 Kenda tyres on them. Yes, the most entertaining part of every offroad ride! Eventually after much pondering, offroad deity Mr Graham Jarvis appeared in my head and told me, its a dirt bike, go for it.. i do want to do a jet kit before i take it out for the season any advice with that? To those of you not from Singapore, the reason why most of us use the SM instead of the S or E models is because those bikes are hard to come by here nowadays. If youre the proud owner of one, would you be game to try? The bike is still a heavy one which can be hard to handle without good body positioning and technique. Overall the bike felt very disproportionate with the SM forks, but with that being said I would still recommend the DRZ400SM as a great budget option for intermediate riders looking for a bike that could take you on the road, or into difficult terrain. A worn sprocket will kill a new chain. The traction on this old horse is pretty good compared to your lighter and newer enduro models (without any tubeless system) which is something I find quite common amongst the old school thumpers. Some features of this site require JavaScript. Expensive sprockets wear out just as fast. 21 inch front rim, 18 inch rear, with 2014 Kenda tyres. Some people are anal and anytime one of the three wears out, they replace them all - both sprockets and chain. When you buy through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission.Copyright ThumperTalk, Inc. - All rights reserved.ThumperTalk is a registered trademark. We will judge the DRZ 400 SM based on 3 criteria: Single Tracks, Hill Climbs, and Downhills. So I am unable to comment on its hard enduro capabilities, sorry! if i do end up going with the 16/39 set up what link chain would i have to go with? You may still find them on Carousell if youre lucky, but your safest bet is to get them online. This bike will haul me everywhere that I need to go. Thumpers are harder on chains, has to do with the single power pulse. what kind of lube do u guys use on yourchain? It became a lot heavier to steer and the forks couldnt soak up the hits as well as the Es forks could. The DRZ 400 SM also sucks at handling bumps. Would I recommend the DRZ 400 SM to a dirtbiking greenhorn, though? Imagine your XRs, KDXs, or DRZ E models going to the scrap yard. This will be a story for another day. Something about the thumpers weight and gradual throttle response makes me feel confident when I shoot up those muddy hills. Hillclimb verdict? The DRZ 400 SM is surprisingly good at climbing hills with little traction on them. I dont understand how the SM version (with 21/18) can be so vastly different on trails and such compared to its brothers E and S? 2020 Rude Machinery. Your email address will not be published. im just gonna stick with the 15/39 im going to keep the same counter shaft sprocket as i have in it now its not worn. The biggest reason why I emphasise the letters SM (short for Supermoto), is because the SM model comes with inverted front forks whereas the E and S model come with conventional forks. Pretty good; its a yes from me. what do you have for mods on ur bike HansLanda? I stared at it, it stared back. I was trying to chase down a few KTM 350s and it was a lot of work to keep up with them on the flowy single track! then i read in a couple of different forums that if you put the closed end of a 10mm wrench on the back sprocket you and up with the tension set to about the equivalent of the 2-3 finger slack. Desert rides, single track, or even to work! Lucky for you, the DRZ 400 SM can be your best friend when it comes to slippery downhills. Like many of you, I get my release from five weekdays worth of bullshit by riding my dirt bike through harsh terrain. So the verdict not so good for speedy, tight single tracks.
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